isala before Mr Blair and his
mouthpieces that are still here and Mr
Bush invaded and occupied them what a
tangled weave a tangled web we have
woven is abundantly clear to everyone
watching this debate the mission creep
hasn't even waited for the end of the
debate the words on the motion are about
bombing Iraq if there's a consensus in
here that we're going to soon be bombing
Syria the words don't mention boots on
the ground but there's a consensus here
that there will be boots on the ground
the only question the only question
being whose boots are
they this debate has been characterized
by members of parliament moving around
imaginary armies the free Syrian Army is
a fiction which has been in the receipt
of of hundreds of millions of dollars
huge hundreds of tons of weapons
virtually all of which were taken from
them by Al-Qaeda which is now mutated
into
ISO the Iraqi Army is the most
expensively trained and most modernly
equipped Army in history hundreds
hundreds of billions of dollars have
been expended on the Iraqi Army which
run away leaving its equipment behind it
Isel itself is an imaginary Army a a a
former Defense secretary no less said we
must bomb their bases they don't have
any bases the territory they control is
the size of Britain and yet there's only
between 10 and 20,000 of them do the
maths they don't concentrate as an army
they don't live in bases and the only
way a force of that size could
successfully hold the territory that
they hold is if they population which is
acting as the water in which they are
swimming and that population is
quiescent because of Western policies
and Western Invasion and occupation
that's the truth of the matter is could
not survive for 5 minutes if the tribes
in the west of Iraq rose up against them
I yes I
will understand how appalled people will
be to hear him say that women buried
alive women buried alive women enslaved
are quiescent in their persecution by
these people what a total
disgrace well they don't like it up them
Mr Speaker they'd rather have they'd
rather have they'd rather have an
imaginary debate moving around imaginary
armies Isel is a death cult it's a gang
of terrorist murderers it's not an army
and it's certainly not an army that's
going to be destroyed by aerial
bombardment Isel is able to rule the
part of Iraq that it does because nobody
in those parts has any confidence in the
government in Baghdad a sectarian
government helped into Power by bremmer
and the deliberate sectarianization of
Iraqi politics by the occupation
authorities the government knows that
that's why they pushed al- Malaki out
even though he won the election by the
way if we're talking about democracy
they pushed them out because they knew
that far too many people in isil
occupied Iraq had no confidence in the
government in Baghdad
nobody has any confidence in the Army uh
in emanating out of Baghdad so this will
not be solved by bombing Mr Speaker
we've been bombing Iraqis for a 100
years 100 years we dropped the world's
first chemical bombs on them in the
1920s we attack them and help to kill
their King in the
1930s we helped them we helped the
murder of their president in
1963 helping the bath party into power
we bombed them again through the '90s
yes I'm sure we're all ever so grateful
for the lecture but what is his solution
to this problem well now I've got an
extra minute thanks to you I'll be able
to tell you this will not be solved
every matter will be made worse
extremism will spread further and deeper
around the world just like happened as a
result of the last last Iraq war the
people outside can see it but the fools
in here who draw a big salary and big
expenses cannot or will not see it like
The Honorable lady with her asinine
intervention Rory Thank The Honorable
member very much for giving we but would
the honorable member please bring us to
his solution to this problem although
with 5 minutes it's
difficult we have
to we have to we have to strengthen
those who are already fighting ISO we
have to give them all the weapons they
need the Baghdad government has paid for
weapons which have still not even been
delivered we have to strengthen the
kurish fighters who are doing a good job
by the way in fighting
ISO we have imaginary armies the Sai
emirati katari they're all imaginary
armies they haven't even told their own
people that they're on the Mast heads
has anyone here seen a picture of them
fighting in Syria anyone seen a picture
of a Saudi jet bombing in Syria Saudi
Arabia is the nest from which Isel and
these other vipers have come and by the
way they do a fine line in head chopping
themselves Saudi Arabia has 700 war
planes get them to bomb turkey is a NATO
member get turkey to bomb the last
people who should be returning to the
scene of their former crimes are Britain
France and the United States of America
Mr Adam
Holloway thank you Mr Speaker follow
that I think when people in this house